Wednesday, October 25, 2006

"The Man Who Was Thursday" Discussion, Post 2

Finally we have our next topic to discussion. Thanks to Dr. Thursday for coming up with another topic.

How does TMWWT fit into the Tolkien view of subcreation?
Side question for speculation: Do the Two Trees of Valinor have their seed in this dialogue?

What do you think???? PLEASE comment.

4 comments:

Margaret said...

Hey Ria,
I'll comment for real in a couple days, after I think about this a bit. It's quite a thought-provoking question!

Ria said...

Oops I forgot to say which dialogue it was, it is this one from TMWWT:
"I was waiting for you," said Gregory. "Might I have a moment's conversation?"

"Certainly. About what?" asked Syme in a sort of weak wonder.

Gregory struck out with his stick at the lamp-post, and then at the tree.

"About this and this," he cried; "about order and anarchy. There is your precious order, that lean, iron lamp, ugly and barren; and there is anarchy, rich, living, reproducing itself - there is anarchy, splendid in green and gold."

"All the same," replied Syme patiently, "just at present you only see the tree by the light of the lamp. I wonder when you would ever see the lamp by the light of the tree."

Chestertonian said...

That dialogue from Thursday always stirred something in me, but it was not until you mentioned the Two Trees of Valinor that it understood just what it stirred. Did Dr. Thursday make that connection, or did you? Either/or, it is brilliant.

I adapted Thursday into a screenplay a few years ago, and something else from The Silmarillion inspired a small addition I made. Not going to say here what that was though.

Ria said...

That was Dr. Thursday, I can't claim credit. (: